When yahoo didn’t drag and drop feature I was using it because gmail didn’t give birth

The rest of others I was pretty clear on my statement even if google provides that those are not buying points for me to switch.

BTW, I have already agreed I’m biased and my statement were as said but at least not over-baised from my perspective!

point 3: usability isn’t just limited to drag and drop. gmail gives you all the buttons at the top and bottom of each mail, very useful for long mails. that’s more usable. before yahoo introduced drag and drop, how did you organise your mails?

point 5: multiple accounts, however useless they may be, is a feature that’s missing from gmail. trivial point taken.

rest of your points can be generalised to state that:
“gmail does this, but yahoo does not. i don’t use the feature that gmail provides, so gmail is bad”, ignoring that you have the option of NOT using the feature.

also, imho, yahoo is OUT of the competition until it introduces atleast an option of conversation view. it’s the only sane way to keep track of 50-200 emails in a day and around 30000 mails in my archives (yeah, i actually handle that much mail). my friends who use yahoo usually give up and hit “mark all as read” because it’s just impossible to keep track of multiple conversations over email, they way it happens over mail groups, without conversation view.

i’d go so far as to prefer gmail over microsoft outlook 2003 (for just the email features, calendar/journal/tasks etc is much better in outlook), but i guess i’ll save that conversation up for another day.

sorry if i sound inflammatory, i didn’t intend to. however, i find the author’s viewpoint extremely biased. the comments (atleast, as far as i read) are much more balanced.

I like Gmail just fine (haven’t used Yahoo since… well, I can’t remember) but I do miss folders. What can I say… I still use Outlook too!

My answers fall below before doing that you can very well read my post title and disclaimer lol

1. You guys agreed gmail needs some improvement on this.! Well, i’m not a Opera fan. if you think you can tweak gmail by installing couple of hacks etc. why don’t you just switch to Firefox where everything works seamlessly with Yahoo!

2. Well, if you read my point I agree Labels are good… but not without Folders..

3. I’m a Firefox user. I’m not worried if Gmail works in another browser or not..

4. I can’t agree with you on that! I hardly see people using POP/SMTP for their personal email. I don’t think Yahoo India! alone supports POP, it should be general across the countries.

5. I said I don’t use this feature. That doesn’t mean that yahoo didn’t have this feature. I used this feature long back around say 5 yrs back with an SoftHome email account. Please take some time to check Options page and then Mail Address option. Yahoo offers this service too..

6. Yes, you too agreed. Yahoo provided this so this can’t be a buying point for Gmail

7. I decided not to talk about this any more. Images talk more than 1000 words. Have a look at my yahoo interface. Do you think yahoo is plastered with banners? if Yes, I’m sorry!

8. I may agree with you But here im not defending these features are good / bad. What I’m trying to tell here is “these points are not buying point for Gmail to make me switch over from Yahoo”

9. Proof? just to save from some spam mails I can’t loose all emails hope you’re aware about the gmail disaster..

10.

I agree Gmail rocks, but still I can defend against it with Yahoo based on my personal view and my plus points why im with Yahoo!.

I’m not doing a Technical 1 to 1 comparison here

It was fun defending anyway.

BTW, if you switch to Firefox you don’t have to use a plugin for spell check hope not this becomes Firefox Vs. Opera like gmail Vs yahoo

2. Labels instead of Folders – Dont agree with you. I am with Mayank on this.

3. Usability – Drag and drop is nice, but first yahoo needs to make its service cross browser compatible. Which if they try wouldnt be too hard.

4. POP / SMTP support – This is something a lot of people use and this is something most yahoo mail accounts dont have access to (I think yahoo india offers POP). Its even more useful nowadays as a lot of mobile softwares use POP to deliver email updates on mobile phones.

5. Multiple Accounts – I use multiple accounts. One account using Gmail hosted (i.e. with my domain name) and another account with normal gmail address. I import all mails sent to gmail hosted to my normal gmail account as its convenient. Again its something that yahoo doesnt offer.

6. Messenger Integration – How is it negative? If you dont need it disable it. I am singed out of the messenger most of the times, but sometimes IM works better than email. Btw, yahoo provides this.

7. Advertisement – So you are telling me your yahoo mail account isnt plastered with big banner ads?

8. Google Office Integration – You are walking on thin ice over here. You are simply taking some of the best features of Gmail and stating that you dont like it because you dont have use for it or you would rather do it in a more complicated x y z way without explaining why. How is downloading–>uploading–>viewing more convenient than simply –>view file ?

9. Gmail anti-spam isnt 100%. But it works better than yahoo. Mainly because it gives a lot less false positives.

10. Dont really know what to say!!

You are right gmail rocks. And its impossible to defend yahoo mail against it. Well, atleast you tried

Btw, I use gmail all the time. Even when I am not using it directly. I use an userjs called oSpell for opera (inline spell checker) that uses gmail’s spell checking engine.

Both the services have got advantages and disadvatages…If you want I can still do a post where I’ll say 10 things I don’t like about GMail

But, the fact is that I’ve made GMail as my choice of service and so I’ll stick with it

I may agree Gmail is good, but they don’t grantee my data With this is mind it hard for us to move… We are with Yahoo that doesn’t necessarily mean we are stick with Yahoo! since we started initially with it.

I understand that Let me conclude this way, Yahoo and Gmail has it own advantage and disadvantages. People stick with either one just because of the choice they make and both service is best to each other.

Would both of you agree?

You guys are comfortable with Yahoo and so, you’ll stick with it and same is the case with me. GMail is good and there is no doubt about it and the fact that it came late in the market, it’s stuck with less user base. People, really don’t like to change their email address often and that’s why they are still with Yahoo.

I’m purposefully dragging away the conversation and I hope you understand why

Mayanak – wow. Really great explanation, but I’m gonna cover 10 by 10 again

1. Lovely, you finally agreed with Nirmal and me.

2. If you really don’t see any difference, I’m sorry folder is ahead of labels

3. How do I know all scenarios? There might be situation email flow in without notice Why don’t you agree Drag and Drop as a feature? BTW, filters are not only with gmail. I can set that up in Yahoo too

4. Now I understand, why you’re with gmail. Dude it sounds like you never used yahoo, why don’t you take a moment to go check Options –> POP Access and Forwarding page in Yahoo! Yahoo does support and it was the first to introduce POP support with the big payers. This is for your FYI.

5. Uhmm, I don’t understand why should I use multiple email account If I’m pretty comfortable with a single email account which I use?

6. I’m sure; we talk about usability but that should not restrict anyone. If you think messenger integration is much required well yahoo too has it. That makes this point not a buying point to me.

7. I will go with Nirmal points. But what I think obstructive is, say when you have an address in email; you will get an ad placed for google map. You might be thinking that is good from usability stand point. For me it is not, is that required for me to find all address I get in my email? Doesn’t that sound to be an obstructive marketing?

8. Agreed. Choices are there! So why do you think google office integration is needed in first hand?

9. I may agree to it if they have proven this. Personally, I get SPAMED more than my yahoo mail in Gmail. Again gmail is not even my primary account.

10. Agreed! Good feature from usability perspective. But if you think that is a buying point then finally Gmail will end up creating shortcut buttons all around lol

BTW, I’m glad to see your response as well

Again, I’m with Nirmal on all the points he mentioned out there

If you dont see any point in label and folders, thats your mistake mate. He has clearly explained it.

Well how many filters are you going to create for mails you dont read? 1000s or 10000s? For keyboard users shortcuts may be there, but tell me how many know this actually? Drag and drop a GOOD functionality missing in GMAIL.